Unveiling the Secrets of American Militias

Published February 19, 2025 at 10:00 PM MST

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In the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, John Williams, a wilderness survival trainer from Utah, embarked on a dangerous mission to infiltrate American militias. Posing as an ally, Williams spent years undercover within groups like the Oath Keepers.

His undercover work exposed alarming connections between militia leaders and high-ranking law enforcement officials, including the sheriff from Iron County. Williams also uncovered secret operations, including the surveillance of a young journalist at Southern Utah University. His efforts provided a rare glimpse into the strategies and influence of these extremist groups. His undercover work culminated in a massive trove of documents sent to ProPublica reporter Joshua Kaplan. Kaplan joins us to talk about the inner workings of these militias.

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Joshua Kaplan | Investigative reporter for ProPublica.

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